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Author:  jonnosan [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:26 am ]
Post subject:  kipperterm 2 in development
I've started working on a new version of kipperterm, the first big change is it will be a stand alone (disk based) prog only, I'm no longer targeting the 64NIC+ cartridge. That means the code can be more than 16KB in size.

What I have added so far is a disk based 'address book', in which you can store all your favorite telnet and gopher links

My long term wishlist includes these, but would be happy if anyone has some code they are willing to share:
- punter c1 protocol transfers
- scrollback buffer
- capture session to log file on disk

Anyone interested in being a beta tester?
Author:  Schema [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
I can help you test it.

Any chance of a soft-80 column mode?
Author:  jonnosan [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
Schema wrote:
Any chance of a soft-80 column mode?


In theory, yes, assuming I can steal the code from somewhere.

In fact I was hoping it would be as simple as loading one of the existing tools per viewtopic.php?f=5&t=433

I tried the 80Columns.prg from http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/ ... index.html but it didn't work - not sure why yet.

Here's a d64 with work in progress
kipperterm2.prg is the main prog
abe is the Address Book Editor (run seperately)
80columns is the 80 columns driver - you can try to run it before running kipperterm2 but as I said it didn't work for me

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Author:  CadorBolin [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
Thank you for this program. I always love to see new c64 networking software.

If 80 columns is not possible, what about word wrap? Basically, if a word goes past the 40th column, just cut and paste the word back to the beginning of the next line.
Author:  RaveGuru [ Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
Great to see somebody picking up the C64 Telnet glove and bringing it to next decade. This has been needed for years. Especially since GuruTerm never made it to non-beta *ahem* :roll:


About Wordwrap: Good idea but only useful on 80 col BBS's since it would screw up the formatting on 40 col boards. Make sure to make it optional if you do it ;)
Author:  Schema [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
Very nice! A few comments...

-ABE seems to load the addresses really slowly - would have expected it be instantaneous on my IDE64. Are you using the kernal routines? Thanks for checking the drive# though ;-)

-Loading the address book within Kipperterm2 defaults to drive #8. I know you can change it, but you can check address $BA for the last drive# (as in the ABE).

-Otherwise, doesn't seem drastically different from V1 yet, so I'm not sure what to test out. VT100 and PETSCII work just fine, as before.

Currently watching the movies on your PETSCIIMATION site. Very cool.
Author:  mareLock [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
amtronix.com .... haha nice one ... i like the alien movie
Author:  MagerValp [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
jonnosan wrote:
My long term wishlist includes these, but would be happy if anyone has some code they are willing to share:
- punter c1 protocol transfers

You can find code for downloading via Punter in CGTerm. The upload protocol is completely undocumented and I didn't have the patience to reverse engineer it.

Quote:
- scrollback buffer

Just a buffer with a sliding window, 80 bytes per line (chars + colors).

Quote:
- capture session to log file on disk

No real trick there, just open a file and keep writing, as long as the BBS doesn't mind waiting for the 1541 to catch up...
Author:  jonnosan [ Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
Schema wrote:
-ABE seems to load the addresses really slowly - would have expected it be instantaneous on my IDE64. Are you using the kernal routines? Thanks for checking the drive# though ;-)

ABE is 100% BASIC, so yes using the kernal routines, but not very efficiently (specifically, its doing a heap of GET# calls)

Schema wrote:
-Loading the address book within Kipperterm2 defaults to drive #8. I know you can change it, but you can check address $BA for the last drive# (as in the ABE).

I thought I was, but yes I can add that.

Schema wrote:
-Otherwise, doesn't seem drastically different from V1 yet, so I'm not sure what to test out. VT100 and PETSCII work just fine, as before.

Only really new feature so far is the address book. Still planning to add more, just got distracted by my ECCC project.
Author:  mistermsk [ Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
Address book was really needed. Thank you so much for your hard work!
Author:  jonnosan [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
this is a build with xmodem filename fix
it should also fix the issue schema had above with trying to load the address book from drive 8 even if you'd loaded it off a different drive

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Author:  jsori1 [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
Hi,
I am a newbie and have attempted to download the latest d64 file of Kipperterm2 that has the suffix GZ without success.

What does the gz stand for and what do I need to download it onto my PC?

I want to convert it into a workable disk to load onto my C64?

Also, is it my understanding that this program can be used with the rr-net, and how many of you out there have used it successfully to telnet to any websites?


Thanks, Jeff
Author:  RaveGuru [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
gz stands for gzip and is a common compressed archive format on unix. You can unpack it with most popular depacking programs on various platforms. Google is your friend!
Author:  fierman [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
jonnosan wrote:
Schema wrote:
Any chance of a soft-80 column mode?


In theory, yes, assuming I can steal the code from somewhere.



http://commodore64.wikispaces.com/80+Co ... er+For+C64

Doubt whether this is really useful, given the length etc. , but it might give you some ideas of your own.
Author:  maraud [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kipperterm 2 in development
I just started using KipperTerm2 with VICE and it's nice. This is the first DISK version I've used (I have V1 on my 64+ EPROM). I can't wait for punter support to be added! Thanks a bunch for the Address Book! Nice stuff!
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